Monday, July 25, 2005

RHAPSODY Link" title="external link"> Jesus I Long to See You

Oh, My Dear Jesus, I long to see you.
Someday, Beyond the river!
Oh, Lord and Saviour, I long to hear you,
Someday, I'm bound away,
'Cross the wide O'l Jordan

Oh , My Dear Lord My Soul was Taken
Away, Beyond the River
Your Mercy and grace have Stolen
My Heart, I'm bound away,
'Cross to See heavens Shore

Oh, Blessed Jesus, I'd only falter,
Without, your Tender Mercy!
For You Have crossed the stormy water,
And Said, Come Unto Me
'Cross wide tempestuous Sea.

Farewell, Dear World, I'm bound to leave ye.
Away, To My Dear Saviour!
Oh, Blessed Jesus,You'll not Forsake me,
Away, I'm bound away!
'Cross to Gates of heaven

Pastor MikeJuly 24th 2005

Wednesday, July 20, 2005

A Lesson of ANTI Representitive Government

At Today's City Commission Meeting We had our second reading of an ordinance for the expanding of Alcohol Sales in Belleview to include Booze in Bars , restaurants pubs etc. on Sunday from 7 am to 2 am Monday morning. Almost everyone at the meeting was Opposed.
DID it matter? Not really, not for two of the commissioners at least, and one who was willing to bend a little on hard liquor in bars. The Mayor, Steve Bairstow, Commission-ess Paula Chaffin and Commissioner Ken Nadeau, all Voted FOR EXPANDING the SALE FOR CONSUMPTION ON PREMISIS of Booze on Sunday, ( Ken Being the one willing to limit hard liquor; however he was over ridden by Belleview's Mayor.


The Following is far from Scientific however anyone who attended the Meeting this evening will see the point..... If Corrections need to be made or if anyone sees where I have made a clear error in my observations please let me know.
Thanks..
In Christ
The Preacher



NEW Math in the New Boozerville. ( X-Belleview)

Signatures from residents including addresses, within the City Limits
who are opposed to changing an ordinance providing for the sale of
Booze on Sunday in bars Lounges and restaurants etc.on 7/19................270+
( Gathered in about a week)

Signatures from Residents within the City limits of Belleview with
Addresses to prove it, who are FOR allowing the sale of Booze on
Sunday within the city limits of Belleview...on 7/19................................. 00? " Mayor says Clear Majority Want Booze on Sunday"


Businesses personally invited to offer their support for expanding
alcohol in Belleview at a workshop last month..........................................45

Business that showed up to offer their support...at workshop......................3
Business where the manager spoke without ownerships permission
and in fact contrary to official store policy..................................................1

3 city commissioners see Clear Majority of Business want Booze on Sunday
( the one that spoke without permission and was then told not
to say anything else was one of the three)


Business that showed up at the hearing July 19th to voice
Support of the ordinance change allowing Booze on Sunday.....................1

3 City Commissioners see Clear Majority of Citizens and Businesses want Booze on Sunday!

Supporters of the ordinance at the meeting who spoke...............................3

Opponents of the Ordinance who spoke at the meeting..............................8

3 city Commissioners see Majority Speaking FOR Booze on Sunday

While Getting signatures going door to door without skipping
homes, blind door knocking, house to house.
The ratio of those for and against keeping Sunday Alcohol Free ( service).5 to 1

3 city Commissioners See Clearly that the Odds are in their Favor!

Signatures from Area Church pastors Elders counseling Against...............26

3 City Commissioners clearly see moral issues better then Belleview's Pastors!
changing the Law to allow Booze sales on Sunday

Names of Restaurants who told the city they would not move to
Belleview because of the Booze Limitation on Sunday...............................0

3 City Commissioners clearly see that Restaurants have not come here because of Booze

List of Business that went out of business because they could not
sell Booze on Sunday.............................................................................0

3 City Commissioners see the lack of Booze on Sunday as a Major blight on Belleview



Percentage of Citizens Opposed to Belleview's
City Commissioners decision? about .80% ....................................................

3 Commissioners see Clearly that they KNOW what the PEOPLE WANT!


Amazing!

I wonder what the Number of Commissioners to be re-elected who deal in NEW MATH by those who are OLD SCHOOL in their figuring will be.


Number of Votes needed to have a referendum placed
on a ballot for the OLD SCHOOL Antiquated Folks to
reverse the NEW MATH Politician's Decisions on
Booze in Belleview .................................................. APROX 250


NUMBER OLD SCHOOLERS WILL HAVE.........................At Least 300


NUMBER OF FOLKS WHO VOTED IN THE LAST ELECTION .....
FOR COMMISSION SEAT .........................................APROX 315


AMOUNT OF MONEY 3 Commissioners
WILL FORCE TAXPAYERS TO WASTE
FOR their VOICE TO BE HEARD..................................OVER 6,000$$

Sunday, July 17, 2005

Threats and Bizaro comments:

An original Letter written to me by a fellow who refuses to Identify himself except as "BOB in Belleview", In the Following Letter one can see an Anti God mentality and a great deal of misconceptions about Christianity, churches, etc. I would also note that in the following exchanges one will be able to see glimmers of truth as to corrupt Christianity, however misplaced his comments expose just how folks will view all Christians by the works of those who are corrupt. His Original comments will be in RED, his secondary comments to my writing in Blue will be in PINKISH (my Comments to his first letter will be in Blue: ) Enjoy...

Anyway here is his original letter:

Don't you feel that your scope of influence is rather stunted when you think that banning Sunday liquor sales in Belleview is a solution to Sunday drinkers? Obviously this is not a DRINKER situation but rather is a Liquor sales event. People obviously can go outside Belleview to purchase liquor if they wish, so you are trying to limit the business capability of restaurants and other liquor sales outlets IN Belleview. Big deal?

But it might be seen as a huge hypocritical issue for YOU, "FREEDOM" Baptist Church to try to limit other people's FREEDOM.

To me, it is easily managed on the same basis as managing abortion. If you don't like abortions, then don't get one, and if you don't like alcohol sales on Sunday then don't buy any on Sunday.

But you show your shortsightedness when you focus on the sales rather than the USE of alcohol. In fact some major churches serve (or pretend to) alcohol on Sunday, don't they? And isn't alcohol regularly mentioned in your bible?

Maybe you ought to butt out of managing restaurants, and tend to scamming money out of believers for your free ticket to life.

Truly Bob in Belleview



To this letter I Reply with the following:

Dear Bob in Belleview; Thank you for your comments and misconceptions, I will attempt to explain the issues that you address one at a time. I hope that this will help you be better able to actually grasp the issues at hand
. I'll bet that you just crave to beleive that everything YOU think and say it is the truth and is valid, but maybe not, maybe not in the reality of real human life. So let me give YOU the handle and we'll see if YOU can get a grip...
you said:
Don't you feel that your scope of influence is rather stunted when you think that banning Sunday liquor sales in Belleview is a solution to Sunday drinkers?

I never said that booze on Sunday was a solution to the problem. If you read your OWN words below this area you may see that in actual fact you ARE exactly saying just what I said The fact of the matter is as you seem to have not grasped is that Certain folks in Belleview are trying to Expand the SALE of in Belleview to include ONE more day for consumption on premises. Have you read the ordinance?No I have not read the ordinance, but it seems quite elementary that the PEOPLE of Belleview might think it ok to be able to buy liquor on Sunday when in other towns, cities and counties, people like you have not been able to force your way of thinking strongly enough to restrict the freedom (you know tha word ?FREEDOM) to choose what they want to do without YOUR help or restrictions.? Bob there are a quite a few remedy's for Abusive drinkers and there not so abusive counterparts, however that is not the issue here right now,You got that right so why did you bother to say that? Stumbling for something to say? the issue is NOT making Belleview THE MOST BOOZE friendly , Drunk Friendly and therefore Drunk driver friendly Magnet in the county, Ya know, this sort of tries to infer that BELLEVIEW would be the ONLY place in the county to sell liquor on Sunday. Remember me calling you "shortsighted"? which this ordinance would do. If that is your desire, to make Belleview the MOST booze friendly town in the County, then I am sure most of the rest of the arguments on this issue will fall on ears unable to hear. Yes it would fall on ears like yours.. clouded with your own wish for strength that might make you able to control all others. Are you that megalomaniacal? Or just a simple ordinary bible thumping psychopath?



then you said:


Obviously this is not a DRINKER situation but rather is a Liquor sales event. People obviously can go outside Belleview to purchase liquor if they wish, so you are trying to limit the business capability of restaurants and other liquor sales outlets IN Belleview. Big deal?

Obviously this is NOT only a Drinker Situation, actually dummy, it is not a drinker event at all, there is no restriction, that people not drink on Sunday. and even though you don't know things like that, it could be that there are a lot of things you don't know and can't control but it is ALSO a Sales event. The Sales Issue being Pushed by the Drinkers and those who wish to profit from there inability to control themselves. Also might I Add at this point that Belleview does not need MORE bars, More Liquor Stores and MORE restaurants serving alcohol to potential drivers then it already has, for that matter neither does the county. ( that's another step) Big deal? sure BOB no big deal. How about accountability? Do you think somebody asked YOU to determine how many stores there might be, bars or ANYTHING,, There might be one too many churches here too..... At least the OTHER money making businesses have an actual product.When asked about responsibility in regard to who should share in the responsibility as to when someone leaves one of these fine drunk making establishments and kills someone or maims then or gets big and brave with a few and beets their wife or kids, the former manager of pasta faire told me . "That's not my responsibility" Typical. Regardless of the ability of some restaurant manager to field an off the wall question from some wild eyed beared religious zealot, the fact remains that you didn't go there on Saturday and try to tell him that crap. Shortsighted? just worrying about one day a week? It's never the one who creates the drunk, never the one who enables them , never the one who serves him.
In some states the bartender IS held responsible for OVER-serving. But still it is the Person that is most responsible for doing EVERYTHNG they choose to do. Try blaming the car mfg, when YOU drive off the road. Surely you might not have done that if you were in Amish-land and driving your horse cart. Jeez, this response is on a kindergarten level, your little inserts are so childish ! I bet you got all of these ideas last night crouching beside your bed in your jammies looking up at the ceiling and asking for guidance.
Let me ask you BOB in Belleview, what does a steel Mill make? Steel right? then cars and Bicycles and other steel related products.
What does a Bar produce? Drunks, hungry children , neglected families, broken homes, highway fatalities 3 out of 4 domestic violence cases, the list is quite long. No Bog Deal right Bob in Belleview.
Well you see wrong again, the bar does not MAKE the product, (compared to the steel mill) And if you knew things outside your little tiny scope of influence you would know that in ALL times, in every economy there are, and have been, and always will be, bars. Just because YOU feel alcohol is bad, tell it to some of the OTHER religions. I am no biblical student but seems to me that there is wine in the bible. and it is a good thing, there. Yes over use of alcohol does cause many problems, but as is true with EVERY THING you can imagine, OVER-use is always bad. Maybe your bible is over-thumped and it has caused you to imagine that YOU are in control of the universe. But you see the USER is almost never aware, except for DRUNKS. they are given many signals that they are astray while YOU are blind to your failure.


THE YOU SAID:


But it might be seen as a huge hypocritical issue for YOU, "FREEDOM" Baptist Church to try to limit other people's FREEDOM.


BOB with Freedom Comes accountability and responsibility, without these two attributes Freedom is anarchy. as you following Liberal anti-life statements reveal, you neither care about innocent Human Life neither are you concerned about consequences of actions. Wrong again bucko,, freedom is to be FREE from people like you telling others what to do. You are not free to tell me anything, Especially what I might ask to be served with my supper.

AND AGAIN YOU SAID:

To me, it is easily managed on the same basis as managing abortion. If you don't like abortions, then don't get one,( If you Do then Get one)(well now, here you finally are starting to GET IT)and if you don't like alcohol sales on Sunday then don't buy any on Sunday ( But if you Do then BUY it).(exactly, don't YOU try to tell me what to do, just take care of YOURSELF)


Funny how your two analogies work together .. get her drunk,, get her pregnant, then Kill the baby.... FREEDOM. Funny how almost all the folks on your side of the equation have no problem with Killing little babies? FREEDOM. BOB obviously you have deeper problems then wanting an excuse to booze it up on Sunday/What , if anything has this got to do with you? Can you get drunk? Can you have a pregnancy? What business is it of yours what the rest of us do out of our own FREE WILL? Killing babies? Yes I believe in post natal abortion and you can be a subject of that if you choose. It's ok bubba YOU can vote on it too. Do not offer your services as to what MY deep problems are, you are blind to your own.


BOB would you take your reasoning to other areas as well? If you don't like Murder then Don't murder... But if you do then Do it?
If you don't like Being a drug dealer, then Don't be one... But if you do then do it!
Well now, lemme see here? are you saying that you can control any of that? go on do it !
If you don't Like being a Sodomite then don't... but if you do Do it! If you don't like molesting little Children then Don't do it... But if you Do then Do it? BOB your FREEDOM is Not freedom at all.. its death

You are struggling buck-o, you have lost your train of thought, and are far afield from the matter of selling liquor on Sunday in your little town. You are trying to cloud the issue by relating to other CRIMES and selling liquor on Sunday is not a crime in most jurisdictions. And at the end of your rant in this paragraph you seem to think that you can ALLOW me to do something... and in the next breath you call it freedom,. Actually, freedom is to be free of people like you, that can't just regulate your OWN life but insert your little closed minded thoughts into everybody else's life. BUTT OUT
AGAIN BOB SAID:


But you show your shortsightedness when you focus on the sales rather than the USE of alcohol.


I focus on Both... the Deceiver... and the one being Deceived the LIAR and the one being Lied to. the killer and the one being attacked to be killed, the rapist and the one who has been raped. The Shortsightedness comes from Ignoring part of the problem as you have done in your letter.

Yes you are free to focus on whatever YOU wish, but then let it be.. do not try to force me to focus on YOUR hang ups

THE AGAIN BOB SAID

In fact some major churches serve (or pretend to) alcohol on Sunday, don't they? And isn't alcohol regularly mentioned in your bible?

To Which I replied:
AHH so here we are ... Yes some groups use Alcohol in services. a Spoonful per person. this not being the issue however I might add that I do not agree with them even that much for the simple reason that the LORD did not use ( according to MY bible LOL) alcohol for Communion at all
. ah yes far afield again.. but think.. doesn't "communion" be the ritual where some sects try to get little kids to take a sip of pretend blood and eat a bit of pretend human flesh? not that that would matter to someone who rejects the word of God as you seem to imply in your reference to " YOUR BIBLE" as you see Bob. this is not only a Bible issue it is one of Public Safety and Public Will. Neither of which you , seem to care about just so long as folks can Kill their Babies and each other. Just so Long as Belleview can become the Boozer capital of Marion County. Should you expand you efforts to Legalize Cocaine and crack and date rape drugs BOB? FREEDOM?
I guess I'd have to check further to see if the entire Marion County is dry on Sunday. But in the end it will not matter to me as you don't even know if I drink or not. Actually I think it is likely that cities can't invoke ordinances that are against state law and maybe that also applies to county statues. But I don't really care. My issue is not about liquor sales or liquor at all, it is more about YOU trying to force YOUR will upon the general population. Your tiny mind keeps wandering off center doesn't it? Trying to relate Sunday liquor sales at Pasta Faire, to abortion and illegal drugs, And worse trying to relate ANY of that to religion. YOU seem to think that you are the center of the universe. and this is what makes religions so stupid... well not the only thing, since there is absolutely NO proof that anything in the bible ever happened. And if you actually were to believe the was a god up in the sky managing everything we do, then why doesn't she stop all evil? What sort of bombs would Jesus drop on Iraq?

BOB on another Note. Might I Introduce you to a friend of Mine, His name is Jesus Christ, he is mentioned in MY BIBLE that you referred to. He Loves you and knows your a Sinner in need of forgiveness, (Like all of us) . My Bible Says that He is GOD manifest in the Flesh! He is THE SAVIOUR! However he is to those who reject his Saving Mercy, the Judge jury and executioner who knows all our crimes, Sins and transgressions. He has provided a WAY for us to be forgiven and not stand before him as our Judge but rather as our Father in Heaven.
I don't need to be forgiven, I account to myself for what I do and I acknowledge my errors and learn from them and none of them are absolved by me creeping into a dark little box and whispering to some child molester what I thought about the girl next door last Tuesday.


Finally BOB in Belleview you expose yourself in the following unlearned godless unbelieving comments:

BOB AGAIN COMMENTING: ( exposing his hatred toward God)

"Maybe you ought to butt out of managing restaurants, and tend to scamming money out of believers for your free ticket to life."
Who told you that you could add "Pastor" before your name? are you ordained by any real church or did you just start up this flim flam on your own so you wouldn't have to go to work?

NOW ME:
BOB in Belleview Please consider the Following information. Realize BOB in Belleview your anger and hostility towards the God that Created you is unwarranted . You can make up lies about Me, others and even the Church if you wish, and as you do, however remember this there is One who knows you and me alike and he Died for us that we might have eternal life.


1. Romans 3:10, "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one...".

2. Romans 3:23, "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God...".

3. Romans 5:12, "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned...".

4. Romans 6:23, "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord".

5. Romans 5:8, "But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."

6. Romans 10:9-10, "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."

7. Romans 10:13, "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."

`If you really believe in god and prayer then start right now and pray for me to get struck by lightning, I'll be outside most of the day today... And in that vein, as to what the power of prayer is able to do. let me relate just how the Indian rain dance works....... they start to dance and never ever stop (until it rains) So, if you pray until I get struck by lightning, you can say YOU Did it. good luck Father bob



IN Christ Jesus
FREEDOM Baptist Church
Pastor Mike


NOW after I mailed this letter back to BOB in Belleview he sort of began to go off the deep end a bit, here are his comments:

Well well bubba, I would ordinarily just ignore this maniacal babbling, but I am about to go out and do yard work and I know I would dwell on this drivel if I did not take a moment to answer. so read on..

I'll bet that you just crave to believe that everything YOU think and say it is the truth and is valid, but maybe not, maybe not in the reality of real human life. So let me give YOU the handle and we'll see if YOU can get a grip...

continued in Next post:


Friday, July 15, 2005

FRONT PAGE>>>>FUNDAMENTAL!

This last Sunday we had a Reporter from the Ocala Star banner come to Church. She is part of a local section on the paper called the Belleview Free Press. Her name, Elizabeth Guth, and she did a GREAT JOB! Thank you very much Miss Elizabeth! She even took pictures! AND WE DID NOT LOOK LIKE WE WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF EATING SOMETHING! THANKS AGAIN!..

And to tell you the truth, she even referred to our Anti Sodomite page as the " ANTI SODOMITE PAGE" and did so without any comments to the contrary! Wonderful! the link to the Article with the Picture can be found in the Title of this post and Also here in the word "Fundamental"I would repost the picture here but I do not think that they allow that so you will have to go to the site yourself to read it and see it.. A special thanks you also to Brother Terry and brother Gray and Brother Bob for their comments in the article!

Have A Great DAY!

P>S> THIS SATURDAY I WILL BE COLLECTIING MORE SIGNATURES FOR THE BELLEVIEW BOOZE ISSUE!

IN Christ The Preacher

Monday, July 04, 2005

TARGET BOOZE


Today is the 3 ed Of July and we have church services at 2 PM and again at 3. This leave vast amounts of time in the morning and early afternoon for street ministry and stuff. As you may have all read or seen, our town is being attacked by forces that wish to increase the hours for Booze to OOOZ to include Sunday from 7 am till 2 am Monday morning.

This would make our little town the most Pro Booze area in the county. A magnet for Boozers and the industry that supplies them.

Anyway, a few area restaurants and their management are supporting this, as well as 3 of the City Commissioners. They all feel or at least SAY that they have no responsibility for damages done by serving MORE BOOZE to people eating or drinking in their establishments.

They Feel our pain, but they are not willing to be accountable for the misery that they will cause. ( Some may even be ignorant of the future problem that they will open the town to and so are ignorantly moving in their short sited manner into the arms of the degenerate industry of Alcohol.

One manager said he did not want to loose any Business , then in a city meeting called our laws Stupid and Antiquated.

Another Woman at the city meeting said we needed to adopt Progressive morals and not get left in the past( or something like that). What they seem to want is to be able to Ignore the pain and reap the gain.

Well NO WAY!



The fact is that there are consequences to irresponsible actions or decisions and folks need to be told about it.

Jonah was sent to Nineveh to preach God's Judgment against them for their wickedness.

Sodom and Gomorrah were great Cities that were destroyed Because they refused to Repent.

Jerusalem was torn down by the Romans because they rejected the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ and so their house was left unto the Desolate!

SO NOW BELLEVIEW It is YOUR TURN!

So today, Right at Noon the Heralds began to cry! Several Folks from the Church went to the Public sidewalk in front of a Boozer supporting restaurant who's management is pushing for the Change in the laws to Let the mocker rage.

Repent! Jesus Saves!
and
"NO BOOZE in BELLEVIEW"
on hand held signs were held high!

Some of The Good folks Going to the Restaurant expressed their anger at being told to repent! Cussed at by the Boozer want to bees....

Get a Life! you !@&#ing !@& !*&^@ some cried!


One very angry Employee came out and shouted at them...

" Why don't you go somewhere else to Win Dixie or Publix and protest there! they serve it too!///

Yes they do My son Said, but they backed out and your store is still for it!" the she tried to tell us that the city sidewalk was their private property.. Blah Blah.....

One person who works for the restaurants was over heard telling a customer who asked what was going on

.."O' That's just some church from another town trying to change our laws"

LIES


The manager though Visible perturbed was a bit more Cordial, and a little smarter about it, and offered the folks with signs water. very nice! Now if he would only repent and tell the city counsel that Belleview's laws a fine the way they are. Or Better yet. Repent and quit selling the Mocker all together regardless of what the city says! Now that would be a Blessing... all the Businesses in town refusing, through repentant hearts to sell Alcohol anymore! Managers and owners getting Converted to Christ! REVIVAL! Bars closing! Restaurants where the Mocker has no place and Consumers who don't even think about asking for the stuff! REVIVAL!

Beer Truck driving about town looking for some place to unload only to see signs of REVIVAL.." "JESUS INSIDE" "BEER NOT WELCOME HERE" REVIVAL!



The preacher



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